|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 4 post(s) |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
0
   |
Posted - 2014.08.07 02:31:00 -
[1] - Quote
Obil Que wrote:Not terribly excited simply due to that fact that we've recently occupied a C4 specifically because it had a single C3 static. That environment suited us well. Obviously a concern is what completely random static we will end up with will very much determine the suitability of the hole for us.
Is there any information that could be made available on what combinations C4s will get based on their current static types? Similar to how C2 with C3 will always have a HS. Will a C4 with a current C3 have a specific kind or possible set of additional statics or be totally random?
Overall, I am far more in favor of increased spawns/randomness vs. additional statics in C4 space since the later permanently changes the landscape of our chosen system potentially resulting in the need to move if the result is unfavorable.
EDIT: Clarification on information request and additional thoughts
This....we are a smallish corp living in a c4/c3. If we ended up with a c5 or c6 static there is no way we could compete with the larger corps living in those holes. It would be very frustrating to no longer be able to live in our home because CCP decided we needed a c5 or c6 static in our WH. |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
2
|
Posted - 2014.08.07 23:38:00 -
[2] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone, thanks for the feedback so far.
We're aware that the PVE reward progression isn't ideal across the different wormhole classes, and this is something on our radar. Your CSM members are helping us do a bit of mapping and plan making at the moment on that issue.
We're aware that this change will be less welcomed by those who live in C4s with the intention of isolating themselves, but overall we beleive that this change will be positive for Wormholes as a whole. You may find that C4s with C4/C1 statics and other similar configurations may still meet your needs well.
We will not be publishing the list of new statics, but players will be able to investigate them on SISI once it is updated with this change. The second statics are not configured as predictably as they are in C2s, but there are still some patterns that can be discovered.
I'm sorry but this is a kick in the teeth. Not only are you drastically changing my home system but you aren't even giving me the information ahead of time to see if it will continue to be suitable for living in? I have never had an account on SISI but unless I can just choose to spawn my character in my home wormhole it would be highly unlikely that I would able to find the WH to check what the static will be. If the static is a c5/c6 the WH will no longer work for us while a C4 or lower we can compete with the corps in those holes.
It is bad enough that you are drastically changing the homes of a lot of people but it's even worse that you aren't going to readily make the information accessible for us to make a decision about the future of our corp. |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.11 02:04:00 -
[3] - Quote
Trinkets friend wrote:
What the FAQ is the problem with this? If you can't figure out how to farm your static, you should move out, right now, and let me move in without having to pick a C4 hole I want, and then waste a weekend expunging your flaccid corpses from it.
The problem is we picked our static when we moved in and we know how to farm it. We can easily farm our c3 and we can hold our own in pvp against most c3 corps. We did not pick a c4/c5 or c4/c6 because we cannot farm them and we cannot for the most part pvp against the groups that live in them. If we are given a second static of c5 or c6 that screws us over. |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.11 03:05:00 -
[4] - Quote
Winthorp wrote:Amgurr Alabel wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:
What the FAQ is the problem with this? If you can't figure out how to farm your static, you should move out, right now, and let me move in without having to pick a C4 hole I want, and then waste a weekend expunging your flaccid corpses from it.
The problem is we picked our static when we moved in and we know how to farm it. We can easily farm our c3 and we can hold our own in pvp against most c3 corps. We did not pick a c4/c5 or c4/c6 because we cannot farm them and we cannot for the most part pvp against the groups that live in them. If we are given a second static of c5 or c6 that screws us over. It is what it is though, so when changes hit you will have to see what your extra static is and either like it or leave it. there will be other C4's that you will like and can take over if your current C4 isn't to your likeing. P.S i am in the same boat.
Yeah but the fact that they aren't even giving us any warning as to what type of new static we will have is ludicrous. If you are in the same boat then you know that logistics in a c4 is not the easiest thing in the world. Now that is a trade off that was made for being in a secluded WH. What that does mean is it could take some time to actually physically move and set up in a new location. Plus the time that it takes to talk to members and make those decisions ensure everyone is able to get their things out of the hole. This is no small task. This is something we should be able to start doing now if we are going to have to move. Not waiting till patch day to start.
|
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.11 03:35:00 -
[5] - Quote
Winthorp wrote:Amgurr Alabel wrote:Winthorp wrote:Amgurr Alabel wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:
What the FAQ is the problem with this? If you can't figure out how to farm your static, you should move out, right now, and let me move in without having to pick a C4 hole I want, and then waste a weekend expunging your flaccid corpses from it.
The problem is we picked our static when we moved in and we know how to farm it. We can easily farm our c3 and we can hold our own in pvp against most c3 corps. We did not pick a c4/c5 or c4/c6 because we cannot farm them and we cannot for the most part pvp against the groups that live in them. If we are given a second static of c5 or c6 that screws us over. It is what it is though, so when changes hit you will have to see what your extra static is and either like it or leave it. there will be other C4's that you will like and can take over if your current C4 isn't to your likeing. P.S i am in the same boat. Yeah but the fact that they aren't even giving us any warning as to what type of new static we will have is ludicrous. If you are in the same boat then you know that logistics in a c4 is not the easiest thing in the world. Now that is a trade off that was made for being in a secluded WH. What that does mean is it could take some time to actually physically move and set up in a new location. Plus the time that it takes to talk to members and make those decisions ensure everyone is able to get their things out of the hole. This is no small task. This is something we should be able to start doing now if we are going to have to move. Not waiting till patch day to start. You moved assets into and grew assets into a WH, a dangerous location and you sound like you almost want them to transport your stuff out safely for you.  Changes will go live on SISI before they go live in game as stated by Fozie, so jump on check them out and prepare accordingly. /Shrugs.
Your right I said please move all of our stuff out of WH for us. Oh wait no I simply asked for time to prepare and do it ourselves if we need to. First of all no one has said when these changes will go on SISI. Even if they went up tomorrow that is only a 2 week period. Also if my character is not in WH on SISI because I have moved it out what are the chances I will just randomly scan down our WH to check it out.
|
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.11 03:43:00 -
[6] - Quote
Winthorp wrote:Amgurr Alabel wrote:fore they go live in game as stated by Fozie, so jump on check them out and prepare accordingly. /Shrugs. Your right I said please move all of our stuff out of WH for us. Oh wait no I simply asked for time to prepare and do it ourselves if we need to. First of all no one has said when these changes will go on SISI. Even if they went up tomorrow that is only a 2 week period. Also if my character is not in WH on SISI because I have moved it out what are the chances I will just randomly scan down our WH to check it out.
Yeah you practically did ask for that. You only have one scan alt in your WH? i sure hope not.
You seem to just be pointlessly whining TBH. Like i said they will go on SISI and you can check before they go live, if that time frame isn't enough then start moving now. So much pointless whining in this thread and none of it of any substance at all.[/quote]
Trolls will troll can't even come on with a real character because all you are trying to do is harass other people. Probably don't even live in a WH. |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.11 04:00:00 -
[7] - Quote
Winthorp wrote:Amgurr Alabel wrote:
Trolls will troll can't even come on with a real character because all you are trying to do is harass other people. Probably don't even live in a WH.
You don't come around here often do you? Your post merely backs up my other post earlier where i said you are another one that has never interacted with any of the discussions about C4's that have been had time and time again and now when changes are happening you carry on like you have had no warning at all. But because i disagree with you i am trolling you right? Sure......
No because you take what I am saying and try to say that I am saying things that I am not.
Because I have not been included in the conversation since the beginning my thoughts on the topic are invalid or just because they are different from your thoughts?
Regardless of how long the conversation has been going on the vast majority of people were not included in the process until the Dev Blogs were posted. I have not once complained about getting a second static my complaint is the way it is being rolled out with very little notice.
Also take your pick you can either state that I don't come here often or that I had plenty of warning but not both. As you stated I obviously don't come to the WH forums often and there I did not have any warning until the dev blog was posted. This does not make my opinions invalid as you seem to think. |
Amgurr Alabel
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.12 01:15:00 -
[8] - Quote
Our C4/C3 got a C4 static. Not going to complain about that but I still feel that this whole thing was rolled out poorly. |
|
|
| |
|